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January 24, 2003

Intellectual Conversation

When did intellectual conversation die? For me it was years ago. I used to enjoy sitting around with my friends talking about the "what is?" What is life? What is consciousness? What is god (Who? Who. Who? Exactly.) Then I got tired. Nobody presents any new ideas anymore.

Maybe I got too stubborn...and that the universe is deterministic. Talk about the meaning of life, the singularity and the Omega point are ideas that I've mulled over and spat out. Doubtful we'll make a computer that survives heat death or the big crunch.

Phiniki and I drank a bottle of wine over a rehashed intellectual conversation last night. We both knew we were defeated when she said, "Yeah, but what's the point?" I mean, sure it'd be cool to have a computer/a species able to live an infinite amount of time if the universe keeps blowing up, or compute everything right as the universe collapses. But there doesn't seem much a point. They're fun mental excercises but I don't share the same science-fiction optimism that Gene Rodenberry did.

Even supposing such a computer survived what would it be? This computer that knows everything; all it would succeed in doing, though, is proving Gödel right, right?

Anyway I still like what I'm doing, I'm just getting the mid-winter "wondering what is going to happen to humanity?" blues. And I miss having conversations where new ideas were generated. Cuz there are no new ideas. Maybe I should read more...

Posted by reid at January 24, 2003 02:07 AM | TrackBack
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just a detail...: I am not defeated at all! you are just looking at the wrong direction. We (humans) try to understand what`s going on around us, but never inside us: who is our enemy? from where do we try to escape? Thinking about anything but ourselves is much easier; but not closer to the (general) truth.

ix9ys

PS: I found the book I`ve told you about, in English but it`s a little bit expensive:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0292776241/qid=1043861249/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/103-5927640-0092663?v=glance&s=books

Posted by: Phiniki on January 30, 2003 04:44 PM

New ideas? Crikey, I have tons of them, but alas, they fall not upon receptive ears. Truth? Most would not welcome truth, for it then requires action. Which in turn requires extraordinary sacrifice. Let's face it, people in general like being 'sheep', it is much easier than (gasp) being responsible for oneself.

Truth can be davastating....be careful what you wish for.

Interesting site btw.

Posted by: Deborah on April 22, 2003 02:18 AM
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